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I've been a member of NV since April of this year. I look forward to getting up every morning to see what's in my conversation tracker. I don't mind the seeded articles but my favorites are the ones actually written by folks on NV. I've noticed that more and more when I click on an article I get an "oops" message that the page is no longer there. What the heck is going on? Is it the community that's removing these, NV, or a combination? Why are they removed?
Disappearing Articles
Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:35 AM EDT
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Just wondering what's going on. It's a little frustrating.
- 17 votes
#1 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:36 AM EDTJust saw this...
Well as long as you make a comment on the article it 'should' track...unless the article was taken down by either 1. the 'author/seeder', 2. the 'community' (particularly if it was a controversial topic), or 3. by NV admin itself...
Now since this was an article that discussed NV, you need to go into the edit mode and click on the gray bar toward the bottom of the page that says 'Publish to', then 'un-click' the 'all of Newsvine' box...I have already clipped this to the Meta vine group for you...What this does is just allow viners to read it, not the whole www. Also, instead of writing an article you might want to email NV...or look into the meta vine group or the NV Help group to see if someone else is having the same issue...(join these and other groups too)
Good luck in the future...
- 8 votes
No problem, just general advice I pass on when I see these types of articles...even long time members forget that part....
- 4 votes
Evidently, I'm not to controversial, as I only challenge the N American perceptions of the Arts, publish poetry, and Art/Photos. (I AM suggesting the concept of 'Indie Arts' as Small Businesses, as I have for nearly twenty years, but the "conventional wisdom" is that there's none at work in my writing...Hi-Ho! 'DeX'
- 1 vote
I've had a lot of those and they were articles published to private groups. My friends commented on them so it shows in my tracker even though I don't have access to view the article. Highly annoying. I wish they would fix that so that if I don't have access anyhow it doesn't show up in my tracker. Private groups have gotten a bit popular lately.
p.s. How the heck are you and yours btw? Good I hope!
- 12 votes
Lol I'm with ya. I'm friends with a lot of the folks in the newer private groups I'm just not in the groups themselves.
Only 255 more days till my wedding.
Seriously? I didn't know you were engaged! I know you said at one point she's the one. CONGRATS!! Details lady! We want details!
- 8 votes
Contratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!! details, yes! Details!!!!
I'll send you invites to any groups I'm in.
...speaking of groups - I started an 'Italian' group and I'm the only member. lol
- 11 votes
I'm German-Irish but absolutely adore all Italian food. Does that count for anything? Lol!
- 8 votes
Congratulations belove - as someone who is 1/4 Irish, I must give you the blessing:
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind always be at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
and rains fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.
You may not be religious, but if the God line offends you, just ignore it. ;)
- 10 votes
I'm a mix of so many breeds I'm not even sure if the Humane Society would accept me. : )
- 7 votes
hahaha! Maybe I should change the group title? Heinz57?
- 7 votes
Hey, at least you guys know what you are. believer called me an evil space monkey. And it got me to thinkin'...
- 11 votes
ooooo!!!! and evil space monkey! I likey!
...at least he called you something - he said that he doesn't even know WHAT I am! lol
- 8 votes
And it got me to thinkin'...
On one hand I'd like to see the resulting video but on the other hand it might just be a little more adventurous than even I can handle.
- 9 votes
The monkey part of it is what has me worried lol! Unless it just means the theme will be Tarzan...
Crap...sirens going off. be back soon
- 9 votes
justme - don't worry - i'm just making breakfast. ; )
that's why I don't do it very much, D
- 9 votes
mtherof3, Lol!! I make some mean biscuits and gravy. Come on over. We probably would have to do it on the grill though since I seriously doubt there is power at my house right now. They were the "just in case" sirens but we do have tens of thousands already reported with no power.
- 7 votes
wow! it's so hard to imagine! we have clear skys and 85 degrees!
Stay safe! and I'll take a rain check on the biscuits & gravy (YUM!!! one of my faves!!) lol when your power comes back.
- 7 votes
and I'll take a rain check on the biscuits & gravy (YUM!!! one of my faves!!) lol when your power comes back.
Aw come on...where's your sense of adventure? Last time we had a big outage I did a huge pot of chili on the grill. It was mighty tasty I must say! Must've been all that practice tailgating at the Nascar races :oP
Clear skys and warm temps? hmph...maybe I'm the one who needs to go visiting!
- 8 votes
....my kitchen has power and the smoke has cleared!!! (mostly) ; )
...and I've got a HUGE grill!
- 7 votes
That's okay...it'll just add a smokey flavor to everything lol! You've got the grill and I've got some amazing local raspberry wine. I vote we share with Davoh as long he shows up in the Tarzan costume! LOL!!
- 7 votes
I'll bring the camera. Apparently Mary J is gonna join us also. She doesn't mind a bit of smokey flavor either lol.
- 6 votes
belove - holy cow your new avatar!!!!! you are a strikingly beautiful woman! ; )
- 5 votes
I'll bring the camera
Well then, maybe I'll just lose the suit and do a little body dancing... ♫♪bonk-a-chic-a-wow♪♫
a strikingly beautiful woman
Don't forget 'kick ass'...
- 7 votes
Just stay off the trampoline - not quite as sexy when it's a guy and besides we wouldn't want ya to suffer any permanent damage!
@ mthrof3, Are you telling me y'all went to the same cooking school? hehehe
- 5 votes
lol @ trampoline. eww. I don't wanna see that! hahaha! any of that! some things should not be done naked.
trampolining and opening pickle jars. O.O
justme - yes, we had the same cooking tutor! lol
belove-rooooowr! ; )
- 5 votes
some things should not be done naked
Oh no, I beg to differ!
- 9 votes
I've had a lot of those and they were articles published to private groups. My friends commented on them so it shows in my tracker even though I don't have access to view the article. Highly annoying. I wish they would fix that so that if I don't have access anyhow it doesn't show up in my tracker. Private groups have gotten a bit popular lately.
I've been seeing an awful lot of that. I see an interesting article and "poof", I can't read it as I'm not one of the group members.
If articles are going to be excluded from what people are allowed to see, then NV needs to fix it so that only private group members have those articles show up on their trackers.
I find it highly annoying, also.
- 5 votes
I would think an "Evil Space Monkey" would likely be much more FUN to hang out with than a mere "conventional" one!...Hi-Ho! 'DeX' (Friend invite on the way to "Mr E.S.M.)
- 1 vote
Dear belove48,
The one just above, though somewhat distant from the comment, was in response to DaVoh's remark about being called a space monkey. The first one, again quite removed from the remark I was responding to, notes my amazement that, SO FAR, my articles haven't been deleted. Some of my "Seeded" posts were removed by me after it became apparent they were being totally trolled by individuals who had just signed om to the Vine literally hours after I posted them. Some of the health related ones were meant to be informative and helpful, but not only generated rancor, but as an example, on one can seed anything by Dr Mercola anymore. How and why these things are is anybody's guess. All I'm doing these days is sticking to Arts related subjects and seeds about tech and science achievements. No political moshing-so, as I'm discovering folks visiting my site at My Space are finally starting to comment positively about the last article about "Queen Of The Damned" and it's catalystic effect on Goth style and culture, AOMEONE's reading it, at last. I really am trying to be, at least in my own unique way, on topic.
Respectfully,
'DeX'
- 2 votes
I am glad this article re-appeared. Hi Mrs D you are everywhere! I am trying to find Dowser's Rav article. I know it has to be here somewhere.
- 6 votes
My my how the rumors fly. I never called DaVoH an evil space monkey.
I said he was a twisted little space monkey :-)
But I do agree with him.....some things are more fun to do while naked.
hello belove. Am I still on -topic?
- 6 votes
I completely understand!
I get this 'grabber' of a title, my interest is peaked and poof! It is gone!
*sigh*
Oh well.
E
ps... Hi justme!!! How are you?
- 9 votes
#3 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:49 AM EDTHey E!! Agreed - some of the headliners look enticing! :oP
I'm just fabulous. We're gearing up for my little one's first time trick or treating. We don't give her candy anyhow so we're just going to a very small area. By the time all of the pictures are taken we probably won't have much time to trick or treat anyhow lol!
Are you looking forward to a classroom full of sugar-stuffed kids? ;o)
- 8 votes
Here I thought I was the only one having that problem. I saw an article about Halloween that had 20 friends' comments on it. Clicked on it and got the oops! page. Thought the author had taken it down. A few hours later, it was on my tracker again with even more comments. I thought "Cool, its back up!" WRONG!! Still getting the oops page. Ive never had that happen before.
And congratulations!
- 5 votes
A classroom full of sugar high kids.... ah yes..... Halloween!
Halloween and Valentines are the two days I wish I'd called in sick! Hehe...
- 6 votes
I'm working on an article for our Colorado vine meet - so that's one - I've commented on it and saved it until I'm ready to publish. If you go to it, you will get the oops msg.
Bewildered wrote an article and now it's gone - I know she didn't publish to 'meta' and that might be the problem, as it was about newsvine.
I would like to NOT get comments to private groups that I'm not in, as well.
That's a good idea to send to the vine techs.
- 9 votes
#4 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:53 AM EDTmtherof3 Elaine suggested to join a group and link it to that so I requested for friendship group and waiting on acceptance. Then I will re post. I hope I can do it right. lol
- 4 votes
yes it is mine. and hopefully I will have it up soon, don't know how long it takes to get accepted in a group.
It sounds like congratulations are in order. I am happy for you and wish the best for both of you.
- 5 votes
bew - It depends on the group, some group admins are faster than others. I'm not in the friendship group - so I don't know about that one.
- 5 votes
I'm admin for Steel Vines I'll send you an invite.
(beloved you should be too!) The Gutter Girls are fun.
Join the ones you want. I usually check out the members to see if I would fit in. : ) Obviously the looney bin is a good fit! hahahaha!
- 6 votes
fudge. let me try again.
oh. it's private - i'll tell them to invite you! : )
requested entry to the looney bin for ya! should hear back soon. I'm pretty sure you speak the language. lol
- 6 votes
belove....I will send you an invite to The Looney Bin! :) Check your email in a bit. :)
- 7 votes
You're welcome!! Thank you for accepting!! :)
Thanks sis!! :)
- 7 votes
Some people write their articles, "Preview" them, post a comment, and then forget to "Publish." I had Luck one time emailing the author with instructions on how to correct their error. That would account for articles in the tracker with 1(1) beside them, but it doesn't take into account the ones with 9(8). The only thing you can do is hit the Stop Tracking button.
If this was the only problem with the Tracker, I could live with it, but there are so many others...
Articles that won't go away after being read.
Articles show up in the tracker with absolutely no friends in them (no deletions, no collapses).
Articles showing up with friends who I've stopped tracking on previously.
Having to wade through 900 non-friend comments to find the one friend comment that put it in the tracker.
I caught a "Pulitzer-prize-winning" journalist publishing an article on his company account, and then seeding it with his personal account. He was blue to me, but not on my friend list. Figure that one out...
- 7 votes
#5 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:25 AM EDT#5: If this was the only problem with the Tracker, I could live with it, but there are so many others...
Funny, but for all that we complain about the tracker, we all have pretty much come to rely on it. That it functions at all is a marvel. Consider:
1) There are 50,000 or so members on Newsvine.
2) How many thousands are writing comments at any given time?
3) If you have, say, 100 friends on your list, and 20 are commenting at any given time,
4) then imagine how frequently that tracker has to adjust its figures so that...
5) ...your friends will see your comments...
6) ...you will see you friends' comments...
7) ...people you don't even know and whose comments you will never read will be able to track and be tracked by their friends...
8) ...that the tracker works at all is nothing less than miraculous.
But, we all get our undies in a bunch when the darned thing fails. Methinks we are spoiled. Methinks Newsvine has succeeded beyond anyone's wildest dreams. Methinks I am happy!
- 1 vote
#5.3: I was just wondering why my friends comments were showing up in my tracker when I was unable to go to a particular article.
Hmmm... one solution is to apply for membership in the private groups so that when the articles are tracked, you will have access to them. That's what I did... you seem like a decent person who would be welcome in any group. So, that's a possible solution. I know what you mean by clicking and finding nothing there. Very frustrating. So, try joining the group(s) when this happens.
#5.5: That's exactly how it was resolved. Bitemore, FR on the way.
Thank you. Happily accepted!
- 1 vote
Only 255 more days till my wedding. Hehe
Wow!! Congratulations (((((♥belove♥)))))!!! :)
- 10 votes
#6 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:40 AM EDTCongratulations to you dear belove♥ and to your dearest Dawn♥. I pray you have a lifetime of happiness together. (((((belove&Dawn)))))
- 9 votes
What I find sad is that when articles get deleted, all the comments get deleted, too, Even the author writes something silly, the rebuttals may be quite good.
I wrote on controversial subjects, but I have been deleted. Like I have an article on WikiLeaks and Israel
I think deleting is never a good argument, it's like slugging someone you don't like. By me, words are the winner.
- 5 votes
#7 - Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:27 PM ESTErik...on the flip side I decided to delete some of my articles on my own, but left the comments under the impression that I was being "fair" to those who had chosen to comment. Shortly thereafter I was called to task by another Viner asking why I had deleted the one and not the other....."can't please everyone....so you've got to please yourself...." :)
- 5 votes
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